What Robin Finds Classy:

• Apologizing without the word “but”

• Believing women the first time

• Driving friends to the airport
  

What Deborah Finds Classy:

• Being your friend’s biggest cheerleader

• Calling off your wedding

• Unbuttoning your pants at dinner

What Robin Finds Crass:

• Taking up two spots in the parking lot

• Using speaker phone anywhere in public

• Legislating other people’s bodies
  

What Deborah Finds Crass:

• Yucking someone’s yum

• Ditching Girls night for a boy

• BANANAS

Art of Classiness is a podcast about womanhood in all its messy, meaningful glory, hosted by real-life best friends Robin Welch and Deborah Andrews.

We talk about the things women are already texting each other about — relationships, boundaries, pop culture, awkward social moments — and the things too many of us still have to fight for. Friendship, feminism, and women supporting women.

We created Art of Classiness because real life is nuanced, people are messy, and being “classy” has a lot more to do with self‑awareness, humor, and respect than perfection. What started as two jobless, depressed, burnt‑out, middle‑aged long‑distance friends needing somewhere positive to put their energy turned into a podcast that brought us closer together and gave us a new sense of passion and purpose.

On any given week, you might hear us dig into:

• Reddit Am I the Asshole stories and the social crimes hiding inside them

• Friendship dynamics, boundaries, and the stuff nobody teaches you

• Women's rights, reproductive access, and the systems that fail women

• Pop culture case studies

• Self-care that isn't just bubble baths

• The situations that leave you asking, "Wait… was that normal?"

• Some episodes are light and playful. Some will piss you off on purpose. All of them are rooted in curiosity, conversation, and the belief that how we treat people matters.

• Classy Convo — the topic we're actually here to talk about
  

• Class Act of the Week — a person or business who embodies integrity and one of our classy commandments

  
  

• Classy or Crass — we put a behavior on trial and hand down a verdict