Deborah & Robin

Two women laughing and talking on a city sidewalk, one wearing a pink jacket and the other a denim jacket, with modern buildings and greenery in the background.

About Art of Classiness

Art of Classiness is a podcast about friendship in all its messy, meaningful glory, hosted by Robin Welch and Deborah Andrews. We talk about the things women are already texting their friends about; relationships, boundaries, pop culture, awkward social moments, and women’s empowerment.

How it started

We created Art of Classiness because real life is nuanced, people are messy, and being “classy” has a lot more to do with self‑awareness, humor, and respect than perfection. What started as two jobless, depressed, burnt‑out, middle‑aged long‑distance friends needing somewhere positive to put their energy turned into a podcast that brought us closer together and gave us a new sense of passion and purpose.

Meet Robin and Deborah

What we talk about

On any given week, you might hear us unpack Reddit AITA stories, friendship dynamics, cultural expectations, women’s experiences, pop culture case studies, self care, and the kinds of situations that leave you asking, “Wait… was that normal?” Some episodes are light and playful, and some are serious, but all of them are rooted in curiosity, conversation, and the belief that how we treat people matters.